18 May 2007

18 May 2007

I have been reading Peter Grego's Firefly book Solar System Observer's Guide. I am currently reading about Saturn and learned that the rings extend far beyond what we normally see and that all but five of the planet's 19 moons and numerous other orbiting bodies are within the ring structure. That got me to thinking about how I might graphically display the rings and moons. I found that my concepts would not work in Excel. The best I could do was to create one chart depicting the ring structure
and another for the location and size of the rings
(Vertical location of the moons in the graphic does not indicate where they are relative to the plane of Saturn's rings. I had to move them up and down on the chart so they didn't overlap as badly.

There is mention that a “sizeable solid body” will be torn apart if it gets closer to the planet than its Roche Limit. But it never says how “sizeable” sizeable is. So I did a search for the Roche Limit of Saturn figuring that I could compare that to my distance chart to see when a planet becomes “sizeable.” I combined that information with information from Grego’s book and other web sources and came up with my own version of a chart listing where things are relative to the center of Saturn.

Roche Limit

Planet
Roche Limit
Kilometers
Miles
Mercury  
Venus  
Earth18,47011,470
Mars  
Jupiter175,000108,000
Saturn147,00092,000
Uranus62,00039,000
Neptune59,00037,000
If a planet and a moon have identical densities, then the Roche limit is 2.446 times the radius of the planet.

Saturn's Rings, Planets, and the Roche Limit

DescriptionDistance from Saturn's center (km)Width or Diameter (km)
Saturn - cloud tops60,300&ngsp;
D Ring - inner edge66,9007,150
D Ring - outer edge73,150 
C Ring - inner edge74,51017,500
Maxwell Division87,500270
C Ring - outer edge92,000 
B Ring - inner edge92,00025,500
B Ring - Outer edge117,500 
Cassini Division - inner edge117,5004700
Huygens Gap117,680285-440
Cassini Division - outer edge122,200 
A Ring - inner edge122,200 
Encke Minima128,2003,500
Pan133,58320
Encke Division135,700325
Daphnis136,5007
Keeler Gap136,53035
A Ring - outer edge136,800 
Prometheus137,35094
Atlas137,64028
F Ring140,21030-500
Pandora141,70092
Roche Limit147,000 
Epimetheus151,422114
Janus151,472178
Epimetheus151,500119
G Ring - inner edge164,0008,000
G Ring - outer edge172,000 
E Ring - inner edge180,000300,000
Mimas185,520392
Methone194,0003
Pallene211,0004
Enceladus238,100499
Tethys294,6601,060
Telesto294,66024
Calypso294,66019
Dione377,4001,118
Helene377,40032
Polydeuces377,400013
E Ring - outer edge480,000 
Rhea527,1001,528
Titan1,222,8305,150
Hyperion1,481,100286
Iapetus3,560,8001,436
Kiviuq11,365,00016
Ijiraq11,440,00012
Phoebe12,952,000220
Paaliaq15,199,00022
Skathi15,647,0008
Albiorix16,404,00032
S/2004 S1116,950,0006
Erriapo17,616,00010
Siarnaq18,160,00040
Tarvos18,247,00015
Narvi18,719,0007
S/2004 S1518,750,0006
S/2004 S0919,800,0005
S/2004 S1819,650,0007
S/2006 S1  
S/2006 S2  
S/2006 S3  
S/2006 S8  

So it looks like a body is too big to exist inside of the Roche Limit at around 100 km.

After it all I found this Planetary Society image that shows the ring structure and the major moons.

Grego also says that inexperienced observers, which is definitely me, often mistake a gray area on the inside of Ring B in the ansae with Ring C. This leads me to wonder whether or not I have seen Ring C. But reading farther he talks about Ring C crossing the planet and I am reasonably certain that I have seen the ring there.

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